2/21/2018 Pine Grove/Forrest General/Jessica Brook,
Hi Can you provide a Board ordered fitness for duty evaluation not related to substance use? Thanks for info. JM
2/23/2018 JM,
Thank you for you recent email to Pine Grove. We do offer evaluations, however we do not evaluation clinical skills, judgement. We evaluate things such as substance use, disruptive behaviors, cognition, or boundary crossing. For more information, please call our admissions office at 601-288-4799. Jessica Brook
2/25/2018 Jessica
You did not answer my question. Do you provide Board ordered fitness for duty evaluations not related to substance use? Thanks. JM
2/26/2018 JM,
We would need a bit more information regarding what your board deems as a “fitness for duty” evaluation. As stated, we do not evaluate clinical skills/judgement, etc. However, we do offer several types of evaluations: substance use or disruptive behaviors or cognition or boundary crossing. If your board needs you to have an evaluation for one of those concerns, then it is likely something that we would be able to facilitate. Jessica Brook
2/26/2018 Jessica
Can I send you the board order so that you could determine what is needed? Pls. let me know what email to use. JM
4/13/2018 Jessica
Do you provide board ordered fitness for duty evaluations NOT related to substance abuse? JM
4/14/2018 Jessica, Could I send you my board order and you could evaluate it? The psyche/med evaluation is towards “being deemed competent to resume the practice midwifery.” Would this be considered clinical skills/judgement? Thanks for you help in figuring out the best fit for me. I’m sure you wouldn’t ethically want to admit me if I didn’t fit the criteria for Pine grove. With much appreciation, JM
4/16/2018, JM, We provide a few types of evaluations:
Psychosexual: The focus of this evaluation is sexual behaviors or professional boundary crossings.
Comprehensive: This evaluation is broad in scope and can be tailored to encompass questions of disruptive workplace behavior, psychiatric problems, personality disorder, trauma, eating disorder, or questions about cognitive or intellectual functioning.
Neuropsychological Evaluation: Comprehensive assessment to determine presence, nature and degree of cognitive or emotional deficits.
Adult ADHD
Please note: We do not provide evaluations to determine clinical skills, as a true “fitness for duty” evaluation would. Jessica
4/16/2018 JM,
Yes, you can send your board order over via email or fax 601-288-8074 and I’ll take a look. Jessica
4/19/2018 Jessica,
Thank you for agreeing to take a look at the order. I appreciate your help in this matter. Can I get your email address? JM
4/25/2018 (after sending me her email address on 4/23/2018)
Jessica. Just making sure Did you get my order? I sent it a few days ago. Thx JM
5/3/2018
Hi Jessica. I’m just following up to see if you received the order? I haven’t heard from you and am trying to make decisions on where to get a psyche eval. Thanks! JM
5/3/2018, JM, I apologize, I have responded 2-3 times.
I have looked over your paperwork and I have a few more questions:
Namely, we can do evaluations that look at “fitness for practice” in terms of cognition, behaviors, personality, etc. We do not, however, look at “fitness to practice” in terms of clinical skills, education, etc. It looks like the board is concerned about the later. However, if you would grant me permission to speak with them (and provide a name and contact information) then I am happy to reach out to them to clarify. I think that if I am able to speak with someone there I could let you know for sure if this is the type of evaluation that we can assist with. Thanks, Jessica
TIME OUT. I bolded a few of Jessica’s sentences above. Jessica just said she doesn’t believe Pine Grove is appropriate for me because it looks like after reading my Board Order that I do not require a Fitness to practice evaluation in regards to mental health or other abusive issues. (She misspells latter, but I know what she means.) Apparently, I need a Fitness for practice evaluation in terms of clinical skills and education, which they do not provide and honestly none of these facilities provide because they are all drug and alcohol treatment centers. This is the same consensus two other facilities have come to– that I do not qualify for admission at their facilities. So why did the LSBME require me to admit myself into a facility I cannot admit myself in? I am glad I can waste six months trying to get myself admitted to a facility that I do not qualify for and that won’t take me. How again is this relevant to my suspension? Aside from keeping me from earning a living, it isn’t. It is causing me stress, wasting my time, and money. The LSBME has no desire to rehabilitate me nor provide me with legal, realistic, or unburdensome sanctions.
5/3/2018 Jessica, No worries. Must’ve went to my spam box. Thanks for returning my email.
Yes the LSBME won’t tell me what the evaluation is for. I’ve asked several times just because it’s hard to communicate with the facilities what I actually need this accomplished. They have given me five facilities to contact regarding possible evaluations thus far and two have responded that they cannot conduct the evaluation and I’m assuming your facility is not a good fit either. For what it’s worth I’m living in Florida.
Yes I can give you permission on my behalf to contact the board to figure out what exactly they are looking for. Pls let me know what you have heard from them. And I’d prefer you contact them via email so that I can have the boards requirements for evaluation in writing to pass along to my attorney. Thank you so much. JM
5/3/2018 JM,
Thank you for the information. I will contact her shortly. Ronnie and I have worked together on several cases so hopefully I’ll be able to reach her quickly. Jessica
5/3/2018 JM, I spoke with the board and gathered some information. They are referring you for what we term a “Comprehensive Evaluation”. This eval focuses on fitness to practice, behaviors, and cognition. There are also other areas covered such as addition screeners. This eval is a 3-day process for us and costs $4,800. If you want to move forward, I am happy to facilitate that and we can get you started.
TIME OUT AGAIN. Wait, you just said I did not qualify for a Fitness to practice for mental health issues. But after you call the Board, you now think I need a “Comprehensive Evaluation” and some “addition” screeners? Whatever that is… I think Jessica probably needs to spend more time proofreading her emails, but I digress. And I am sure she will be happy taking $4,800 from me for no reason. I am skeptical at best and begin questioning her shadiness. There is absolutely NO transparency here. It all seems made up on the fly in some back alley in New Orleans. Its disgusting and they call this making midwifery safer by having licensing boards? HA!
5/4/2018 Jessica, This is 2000$ more than what I was originally quoted for a psyche evaluation. What exactly are the other areas that will be screened? What are you looking for? Can I get a list of tests please?
I’m re reading this. Is math going to be involved? What are addition screeners? Also. I have never had nor currently possess a drug or alcohol or substance abuse problem. Why is this being assessed? Is there a state agency that you are accredited through? I’ve read several reviews that say this is a huge waste of money and a scam. Also that poly graph tests are required as well as monthly revisits to your facility. Can you speak to any of this? JM
5/4/2018 JM, Our eval will consist of addiction assessment, psychiatric assessment, lab work, history/physical, psychological testing, collateral information, neuropsychological screen. Unfortunately, we are unable to provide you a list of the psychological tests ahead of time, as those are compiled on an individual basis in order to fit your needs. Jessica
What a load of horse pucky. Again, why am I having an addiction assessment? I can just give you the $5,000. I do not need any of this. And wow, I find it so surprising that I you won’t tell me what tests I’ll be charged with. The reviews online tell horrible tales of these facilities. They suggest you go to AA meetings at night because you have nothing else to do and you want to seem compliant. Then when you say after your three-day assessment that you are leaving because again you do not have a problem. They chart how you left the facility in the middle of your treatment aka AA meetings to which they tell you you have to finish the series. So they write that you are non compliant and not finishing treatment requirements. Then you are stuck there for three months wasting $40,000 because insurance doesn’t cover it anyway getting “treated” for something you didn’t have a problem with in the first place. WOW, this sounds fun. Where do I sign up? Jessica tries to persuade me that her facility is not as shady as the reviews claim. I call BS. I don’t have sexual boundary crossings, but the thought of having to take a polygraph suggests criminality–what kind of warped facility treats people it is trying to rehabilitate as criminals? How is that healthy? And if you offer 1-week visits, well guess what– I do not live near you so that just won’t work, in the off chance I need therapy, which I am sure Pine Grove will find or make up a reason for.
5/4/2018 JM I reference to the substance assessment, this is a standard part of all of our evaluations.
We are accredited through DNV, which is a national accrediting agency.
Polygraphs are generally only incorporated if there is a concern about sexual boundary crossings.
Additionally, we do have a treatment program that encourages yearly or bi-yearly 1 week visits back for those patients who we think need the additional accountability. This is not part of any evaluation process and is only part of that single program. Jessica